Something tells me you'd make it happen one way or another. ( for clarification's sake. ) This - Crowley, the king of Hell, we were all on the same side?
King of Hell. This wouldn't be like Disneyland for him? Or Club Med?
( it's a half-joke, and he keeps talking. )
Thriving, surviving, it's all the same. Living's a choice. Say what you want about the system, but if you follow it, you can make a life here. Maybe it's not the one you wanted or the one you think you deserve. But, it's what you do. You adapt. You live. He would, too. Sure he'd be happy you were here, too. Once he got past the sex circumstances.
( there's a slightly uncertain look but she lets it drop. rowena doesn't know if fergus would be happy to see her here, they'd only just started getting to a marginally better point in their relationship, but she'd like to try. she'd be happy to see him and she'd want to build something more there. after the sex circumstances )
Maybe you can show us how it's done then.
( a deflection. because hasn't rowena already made some of those points before? or had them made )
I know that here... I know what it means, what I could do. But I also have no wish to follow their system. Not to their full wishes.
( her head tips back up, looking directly at him, serious flowing through everything. and a touch of fear )
Iron cuffs may prevent a witch from casting a spell but they never hold a witch for long. ( rowena always manages to shake them ) The cuffs they have here... I couldn't feel that connection, it was as if I'd never touched magic. Even Castiel has felt them.
( there's such a distasteful look on her because she has no intention of experiencing that again. except rowena and playing by the rules isn't the best match )
They shouldn't be able to do that. To remove my magic, to make an angel feel human... and all it took were cuffs.
( magic is simpler for her, she knows and understands it but this would be a power she can't unpick, a spell she has no defence for. technology? )
If it's technology... I couldn't tell you about it. ( she could use what she'd learned but that was the extent of rowena's knowledge. she didn't understand anything more about it ) Magic has some basis. But it's too uncomfortable that it's possible... that they could make that choice permanent.
( there's a little interest in her expression at the mention. and dean knows that she's met gabriel, she'd mentioned that in their other conversation, but not many details.
so hearing more about what gabriel might have done? )
I've only heard stories of his acts. ( of the trickster, or his time as loki. that had been passed down. but he'd not been at full strength when she'd met him. even if she might have helped something )
Do I think it's possible? He kept Sam in a time loop where I died over a hundred times and then a year later trapped us both in his demented TV show game.
( both were about teaching them 'lessons', and yeah, he wielded power. )
If Cas can send me into the past and Zachariah can send Dean to the future then a lot's possible if something here has that power.
( she wasn't planning on telling him just quite how powerful she was, the things that she'd done or knew how to do. but the idea of possibilities was certainly enough. particularly when he knew that she'd met god )
Though whatever they're capable of doing... it isn't quite like what an archangel can do.
( they will, there's something to figure out but no way to figure it out. )
Thanks.
( the definition of how rude, he doesn't want to think about it! but, of course he knows. it's a sobering thought, that something will happen sooner or later. to him. to someone else. probably with someone else. )
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:25 pm (UTC)Something tells me you'd make it happen one way or another. ( for clarification's sake. ) This - Crowley, the king of Hell, we were all on the same side?
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:28 pm (UTC)I tried to kill you once, thought you'd made him soft, a weak ruler.
( and then rowena had slowly accepted the power of friendship. sam to start, dean slowly building )
But... he sacrificed himself for you. To stop Lucifer but... for you. For the world.
( and he'd certainly helped the boys out on other moments. he was dean's best friend )
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:36 pm (UTC)People really need to stop dying for us.
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:39 pm (UTC)On this one I would agree.
( she doesn't know how many others have )
Here though... he would thrive. Even if this isn't what he'd want. Or what I'd want for him.
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:42 pm (UTC)( it's a half-joke, and he keeps talking. )
Thriving, surviving, it's all the same. Living's a choice. Say what you want about the system, but if you follow it, you can make a life here. Maybe it's not the one you wanted or the one you think you deserve. But, it's what you do. You adapt. You live. He would, too. Sure he'd be happy you were here, too. Once he got past the sex circumstances.
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:46 pm (UTC)Maybe you can show us how it's done then.
( a deflection. because hasn't rowena already made some of those points before? or had them made )
I know that here... I know what it means, what I could do. But I also have no wish to follow their system. Not to their full wishes.
( there were parts she certainly enjoyed )
Would you?
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:49 pm (UTC)I don't know. I haven't seen the bad yet. Heard about it. I know it gets hairy. If I see it firsthand. For now.
( he shrugs. )
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Date: 2024-10-23 04:53 pm (UTC)They removed my magic.
( her head tips back up, looking directly at him, serious flowing through everything. and a touch of fear )
Iron cuffs may prevent a witch from casting a spell but they never hold a witch for long. ( rowena always manages to shake them ) The cuffs they have here... I couldn't feel that connection, it was as if I'd never touched magic. Even Castiel has felt them.
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Date: 2024-10-24 03:51 am (UTC)( abilities. magic. they can nullify. )
So, they nerfed you. How long?
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Date: 2024-10-24 04:04 am (UTC)( there's such a distasteful look on her because she has no intention of experiencing that again. except rowena and playing by the rules isn't the best match )
They shouldn't be able to do that. To remove my magic, to make an angel feel human... and all it took were cuffs.
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Date: 2024-10-24 04:29 am (UTC)( she's right. they shouldn't be able to. but he knows there are threats out there that could strip rowena - even cas - for good. they have. )
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Date: 2024-10-24 06:30 pm (UTC)( something more powerful. she doesn't want to say god-like but... there are few things that can take herself or castiel down )
Some believe it isn't magic but technology.
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Date: 2024-10-25 04:33 am (UTC)( would that make more sense? )
What do you believe?
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Date: 2024-10-25 05:18 am (UTC)( magic is simpler for her, she knows and understands it but this would be a power she can't unpick, a spell she has no defence for. technology? )
If it's technology... I couldn't tell you about it. ( she could use what she'd learned but that was the extent of rowena's knowledge. she didn't understand anything more about it ) Magic has some basis. But it's too uncomfortable that it's possible... that they could make that choice permanent.
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Date: 2024-10-25 05:11 pm (UTC)( which, count him happy about that. wouldn't that be freaky. killer robot. )
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Date: 2024-10-25 05:17 pm (UTC)so hearing more about what gabriel might have done? )
I've only heard stories of his acts. ( of the trickster, or his time as loki. that had been passed down. but he'd not been at full strength when she'd met him. even if she might have helped something )
But... if you think it's possible then perhaps.
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Date: 2024-10-25 10:58 pm (UTC)( both were about teaching them 'lessons', and yeah, he wielded power. )
If Cas can send me into the past and Zachariah can send Dean to the future then a lot's possible if something here has that power.
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Date: 2024-10-25 11:09 pm (UTC)( she wasn't planning on telling him just quite how powerful she was, the things that she'd done or knew how to do. but the idea of possibilities was certainly enough. particularly when he knew that she'd met god )
Though whatever they're capable of doing... it isn't quite like what an archangel can do.
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Date: 2024-10-25 11:30 pm (UTC)( which doesn't get them anywhere closer, technically. )
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Date: 2024-10-26 08:57 am (UTC)( there's a slight shrug, rowena content to drop it. they'll only end up going around in circles when there isn't an answer for them.
she drinks a little more, thinking )
At least that side of them you won't experience. They'll just have to be creative for your punishments.
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Date: 2024-10-27 01:27 am (UTC)Thanks.
( the definition of how rude, he doesn't want to think about it! but, of course he knows. it's a sobering thought, that something will happen sooner or later. to him. to someone else. probably with someone else. )